Personally? Still hoping for Zamperla, as it would be cool to see what their ride solution would be, in a first-of-it's-kind-of-way. Just recognize the irony of some accusations being slung here in 2023 were the very same pitfalls of Intamin circa 20 years ago when TTD first opened. There is absolutely zero precedent to this type of project, and there's plenty of point/counterpoint to be argued for why Intamin or Zamperla would be well suited for the job. Zamperla, let us all continue to remind ourselves we are grasping for straws at best. While we can also argue in circles on Intamin vs. And yes, wails of downtime and reliability issue also ensues, especially for manufacturers who don't start with B and end in M. We've seen anything but tride and true brand loyalty through the years (especially during Kinzel's leadership), ping ponging from manufacturer to manufacturer and trying out new and respective ride fads. (And the fact other companies proved themselves in the past doesn't suddenly increase my hope for Zamperla.)Ĭlick to expand.In a "circle of life" counterargument, Cedar Fair has actually shown a propensity for greenlighting little-proven ride concepts - dare I say even giving Intamin their big breaks by ordering Accelerator #1 and #2. But the fact they're unproven does not give me any hope. Maybe I'm wrong! If Zamperla is involved, I hope I am. But if they're so bullish that they'd go to Zamperla over Intamin, there will probably be consequences with reliability, the ride experience, and/or ride safety. I could see Cedar Fair attempting to do this "in house" as much as they could, or contacting Mack, or any major manufacturer with relevant experience. Look at all the trouble Steel Vengeance had. No matter how talented a team is, when they start fiddling with a ride they didn't make, there will be unforseen issues. And they are still (and shall always be) the original creators of TTD. I'm just saying it would be a stupid decision.Īgain, I'm not saying a company like Cedar Fair would never give Zamperla a chance on a major project.įor all of Intamin's problems, wasn't the exact cause of the TTD accident how the trains were stored during the Covid off-season? Those were not conditions Intamin could've predicted. In my view, there’s no concrete evidence that necessarily makes Intamin more likely than Zamperla or vice versa.Īgain, I'm not ruling Zamperla out. There’s no concrete evidence pointing to any particular manufacturer at the moment it could be B&M for all we know! But I feel that there are simply too many coincidences and such to rule out Zamperla at this stage. I’m not saying there’s necessarily any concrete evidence to confirm it’s Zamperla or that it isn’t Intamin. With that in mind, doesn’t going back to Intamin arguably hold a risk of its own from Cedar Fair’s standpoint? Isn’t it highly possible that Cedar Fair thought it better to go to an unproven company promising brilliant things rather than one with a proven record of not insignificant issues in the company’s previous installations? Indeed, the whole reason we’re here in the first place is because the original Intamin-manufactured TTD had a major mechanical failure. But if you look at it from Cedar Fair’s standpoint, wouldn’t Intamin possibly be a risk too? Putting Intamin in charge of this project would involve Cedar Fair going back to a company that they haven’t worked with in 13 years, and one that they have previously had very fraught relations with due to various problems with previous rides. I get your point about TTD being a very special case, and Zamperla possibly being a risk. Six Flags gambled on an entirely unproven company, and it went very, very well for them and totally changed the course of the industry. Granted, Texas Giant was not chain-defining, nor did it have any accidents (to my knowledge), but it’s a similar example of a major ride being refurbished/replaced. But given that Mack had previously asked B&M to build Silver Star rather than building it themselves, it’s not out of the question that Mack could have gone to a proven launch coaster manufacturer like Intamin rather than experimenting with building a launch coaster themselves. Click to expand.OK, I admit that was a poor example.
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